tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post779458535643028827..comments2023-07-06T17:28:20.826+08:00Comments on Warong Pak Yeh: Bible Experts Say"Jesus Son of God" is a Mistranslation.pak yehhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08668033505038224891noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-29856505360456711952013-11-12T00:26:13.741+08:002013-11-12T00:26:13.741+08:00You know what, debating with muslim debaters like ...You know what, debating with muslim debaters like PakYeh, is like playing chess with the pigeon. For example, seeing from the way he debated with Mr. Anonymous above, apparently he is using verses from Gospel of John to go against the christians. And at the same time he quoted verses frm the same Gospel to support his arguement. As I found out he has used it to support the coming of Muhammad as prophet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-71482389465543641062013-11-04T07:17:50.595+08:002013-11-04T07:17:50.595+08:00Anonymous said:
For us there is always one God Alm...Anonymous said:<br />For us there is always one God Almighty, even Jesus said so and at the same time He also said as in John 10:30, I and the Father are one...And surely muslim scholars would raise a question with regard to this verse...and they might question, " If Jesus said, ' I and the Father are one then who is Jesus talking to?" :) .<br /><br />Pak Yeh's reply :<br />Yeah, but you cannot take the alledged words of Jesus as the word of god.<br />The word of god said : Isaiah 43,19,11,12 "I am the only god.There is no god before me and there is no god after me. And there is no Savior after me."<br />So if you believe in Isaiah 43:10,11,12 the word of God, you cannot believe the alledged word of Jesus, because 1) it is the alledged word of Jesus by authors 200 years after Jesus died.<br />2) What Jesus said contradicts the word of god "There is no god after me".<br />3) Jesus is saying that not literally but by borrowing the miracles of god. Many verses say he did not do any miracles, and that it was god doing the miracles through him. Many "gnostic Christians" and "Sufi Muslims" believe that they can be god for an instant, when given some miracles, but never a god forever.I too believe I can be god, and Allah gave me some miracles but only for short instances.<br />I am infact very interested in the gnostic gospels. Where can I get them.pak yehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08668033505038224891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-70816233701024551042013-11-03T20:37:24.710+08:002013-11-03T20:37:24.710+08:00Pak Yeh...as far as I am concerned I am beginning ...Pak Yeh...as far as I am concerned I am beginning to love you even more :), I take it as friendly debate. We both children of God,and as human being we must love to one another, let us not make the differences as hindrance in nurturing the spirit of unity among us. It is true in any debates truths are bound to be revealed and it often hurts but that is what we call reality. Sometime, we have the tendency to speak without putting much thought about certain things in order to defend something we believe worth defending. You know what Pak Yeh, although I wholeheartedly do not believe that Islam to be the right choice or faith for me, I do admire for your iniative in defending Islam and the quran. As for me, I always remind myself when I am debating about something, I am making sure that I am debating for the sake of the truth, not about satisfying myself. I hope we can continue to debate honestly from time to time in a friendly tone and with respect. You are more than welcome to correct me if I am wrong. I believe you too must have other commitments beside spending time for your blog, I hope you can take time to think carefully before giving your answers to any comments or questions posted on your blog. Remember, each word counts, each word is important as it helps build your credibility. Frankly, I think if u r willing to perceive or hear things from different angles, I believe you will be able to prepare stronger points for your arguements. Why not do more research such as how the christians perceive and understand the concept of trinity. You will be suprised to find out that the way you understand it is totally different from the way we understand it. With all due respect pak yeh after reading all your articles in relation to the concept of trinity, I am in the opinion that you do not understand it. For us there is always one God Almighty, even Jesus said so and at the same time He also said as in John 10:30, I and the Father are one...And surely muslim scholars would raise a question with regard to this verse...and they might question, " If Jesus said, ' I and the Father are one then who is Jesus talking to?" :) . Ok I think I cannot spend much on this for now...dinner time : God bless you pak yeh...hope to hear from you soon...take your time...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-73819195572357056362013-11-03T17:58:19.399+08:002013-11-03T17:58:19.399+08:00Anonymous Sun Nov 03, 02:09:00 PM GMT+8 said:
Pak ...Anonymous Sun Nov 03, 02:09:00 PM GMT+8 said:<br />Pak Yeh, don't give us such excuses as your reasons to interfere the christian affair. <br /><br />Pak Yeh's reply:<br />Me no interfere with Christian affairs.<br />But 1% of Christian is interfering with Muslim affairs by insulting Allah with trinity and son of god.<br />99% of Christian who do not use Allah are my /Muslim friends.<br /><br />Anonumous said:<br />Again, whether the bible is corrupted or not or whatever business within Christianity are none of your concerns. If you believe that we mistranslated what were written in the Old Testament, please bear in mind still that is our business.<br /><br />Pak Yeh's reply;<br />Me minding my own bussiness lah. Me just telling you the truth, that mistranslation of Bible god Yahweh's word a great sin. You dunno meh.???<br />Isaiah 43:10,11,12 "I am the only god. There is no god before me and there is no god after me. And there is no savior except me."<br />How come you make him a three god.???<br />You dont believe in the Bible Old Testament as word of god.???<br />If you dont, why call it the word of god then.??? Better throw it in the dustbin.<br />But you believe in the Gospel,which is the word of man/priests. So your god is the priests lah.!!!<br /><br />I am telling you this because I love you and dont want you to go to hell.!!!<br />Saying "the one god is three in one" is making him one third (1/3) of his one self and that is an insult to the One god Yahweh and Allah.!!!<br />Please understand. I am only trying to help you.!!!pak yehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08668033505038224891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-10398384098555723192013-11-03T14:09:03.913+08:002013-11-03T14:09:03.913+08:00Pak Yeh, don't give us such excuses as your re...Pak Yeh, don't give us such excuses as your reasons to interfere the christian affair. Again, whether the bible is corrupted or not or whatever business within Christianity are none of your concerns. If you believe that we mistranslated what were written in the Old Testament, please bear in mind still that is our business. You cannot force us to believe what you believe. We do not believe that Muhammad was a prophet, but we do not force you to disbelieve it. We do not believe the quran as the words of God as it potrays God as having split personalities, but we do not forcefully ask you to turn away from it. We also believe that the quran has been abbrogated, but we do not force you or interfere in your affair. For us being christians is not about as having a religion but it is about personal relationship with the one true loving God. We always think and feel that there is only one true God despite our holding steadfastly to the faith in the concept of trinity. Pak Yeh, if you believe that your Allah sent Muhammad as the last prophet of all prophets to correct what is considered by Allah or you as wrong, we have no problem with it. You can go on with it, because at the same time we too have to stick to what we believe as wrong. I can tell you again and again that obviously you do not understand the way we perceive things especially the way we understand about the one true loving God Almighty. With love and I hope to hear from you soon. May God bless u always.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-83345034276977416022013-11-03T10:57:34.511+08:002013-11-03T10:57:34.511+08:00Dear Anonymous Sat Nov 02, 09:54:00 PM GMT+8
Moha...Dear Anonymous Sat Nov 02, 09:54:00 PM GMT+8<br /><br />Mohamad was sent by allah because Christians corrupted/mistranslated the Abrahamic "one god" cocept (Isaiah 42:10,11,12) by giving it a trinity and a son of god.<br />Dont you think it is a sin to do miss-translate god's book.???<br />Islam is a "one god of Abraham religion" that was corrupterd by trinity Christians. Unitary Christians are the true teachings of Jesus. The Jesus of trinity Christians is a Greek god similar to Hercules.<br /><br /><br /><br />pak yehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08668033505038224891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-27376443780150077502013-11-02T21:54:48.459+08:002013-11-02T21:54:48.459+08:00Dear tebing tinggi,
Remember Christianity came ...Dear tebing tinggi, <br /> Remember Christianity came first, and Islam came more or less 600 hundred years later after the birth of Christ. Christianity has nothing do with Islam. The christians has all the firsthand knowledge of all the prophets that written in your quran except muhammad.The christians never 'kacau' the muslims first but not until Islam came into this world. Whether our bible is corrupted or not is none of your business but we understand why you guys keep on trying to find corruptions, contradictions or variants in our book because what the quran says about Jesus is not the same Jesus found in the bible. We are open about the transmission, and your quran was transmitted under a very tight control. Anyway, that is not our business. Please bear in mind we are not the one who starts to be busy body.May God the one true God bless and love you guys. With love<br /> <br /><br /> <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-28712750698704691842013-10-27T21:26:59.547+08:002013-10-27T21:26:59.547+08:00Saudara WPY,
After few thousands years now they s...<br />Saudara WPY,<br /><br />After few thousands years now they say mistranslation , someone else could say typing error .<br /><br />I believe what they want to believe let them do ,as long as they don't kachau the Muslim as what they did now.tebing tingginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4529824195243877014.post-25448491017306414232013-10-27T15:53:15.983+08:002013-10-27T15:53:15.983+08:00Pak Yeh betul.
Kristian cerita bullshit, kayalan ...Pak Yeh betul. <br />Kristian cerita bullshit, kayalan dan mitos Grek. <br />Kah,kah,kah.<br /><br />Oi Krisatian Kalau nak pakai Allah, pakailah Quran buku Allah.<br />Jangan alaang2 selok pekasam.<br /> <br />Kristian jangan main tipu dengan salah terjemah. <br />Nanti Yahweh campak kamu ke dalam neraka.<br />Kah,kah,kah.<br /><br />Gue tak bangkang kalau Kristian pakai Quran, tapi pakai Allah,tak boleh.<br /><br />Gue pikir, Yaweh mistimarah kerana tukar nama dia dan trinitykan dia. <br />Allahpun gerenti marah kerana curi nama dia dan trinitykan dia.<br /> <br />Gue kesian Kristian semua akan masuk neraka kerana tipu dan salah terjemah Bible mereka.<br /><br />Syabas Pak Yeh "Defender of Islam".<br />Dr MAZA sudah jadi "Defender of Christians". Dah kafir dan murtad.<br />Phd dia adalah pingat hasad dengki.<br />Kah,kah,kah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com