Christians have been claiming that Allah is their god. But Allah in the Quran denies that He is a Christian god ie a trinity and has a son.
Proof of this is as follows, 1) Allah denies the Trinity. Refer Quran 5:72 "They
surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there
is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful
doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve."
2) Allah denies Jesus is His son. Refer Quran 5:73
"They
surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The
Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and
your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath
forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be
no helpers."
Now if Allah can say he is not a Trinity and that Jesus is not a god and that Jesus is not his son, how can Christians claim Allah is their god.??? You definitely cannot contradict your god, and your god if it is Allah, should not contradict you.Which god said that Allah is a Trinity and has a son.??? Your Priests said that, right.?? So you Christians have taken your Priests as your gods.!!!
Allah is saying so too. . Refer Quran 9:31 "They
have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their Priests and the
Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God.
There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as
partner (unto Him)!"
As proof that the followers of Jesus were bidden to worship only one God as said by Allah in Quran 9:31, refer to the Bible,Isaiah 43:10,11,12
"I am the only god. There is no god before me and there is no god after me. And there is no Savior except me."
Now, this is further proof that even Yahweh the Bible God denies he is a Trinity. Yahweh also denies that Jesus is a Savior.
Now,now, my dear Christians.!!! Who then is telling a lie calling Allah and Yahweh a trinity,???
Look up your Gospels.!!! Is it not Paul Of Tarsus, the Greek who bullshit about a mythological Jesus very like Hercules.??? You Christians have been conned by the Greeks and Romans into believing in mythology and lies. Proof of that is you original Gospels are in Greek and Roman Latin and the absence of the Aramaic Gospels.
So, my dear Christians, stop this bullshit about Allah or Yahweh is a Trinity God and Jesus is the son of Allah or Yahweh. They are all lies and Greek mythology.
Christians are no more an Abrahamic religion but have become a Greek/Roman religion that worships many,many gods.
So, Christians are worshiping the Greek gods, such as God the Father (Zeus), God the son (Hercules/Pericles/Jesus), God the Holy Ghost (same species as Hantu and Pontianak), God the Mother(Mary), and God the Priests whose trinity and son of god mythology or lies over rule the words of Yahweh the God of the Bible.
In this debate, Christians have been dismissed as liars.The Christian religion is a Joseph Goebbels Principle "A falsehood (Trinity and son of god mythology) repeated many times, becomes a truth."
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God in Aramaic is Allaha
Another thing many Christians don't know is that Jesus spoke Aramaic, the name for God in Aramaic is "Allaha". I wonder how many Roman empire serving priests know that?
Jesus didn't call his Father Allaha, he called him Father. For example, when Jesus was being crucified, which Islam rejects, his last words were in Aramaic were 'Abba, Abba, lama sabachthani' (Father, father, why hast thou forsaken me?)
Dear Anonymous,
You are just telling a lie. No proof of Aramaic Gospel ever found.
Besides Allah and Yahweh says he is not your Trinity Christian god.!!!
So did you or did you did you not tell a lie about Allah and Yahweh's trinity and godly son named Jesus.???
You Christians have been telling lies about your own Bible god, and now you want to lie about the Muslim god.!!!
Follow Jesus and GO KILL YOURSELF AS SACRIFICE TO GOD for your sins. Your god would like to sacrifice all of you, like he did Jesus. Wahahaha.
The Christian god is actually the Greek Paul of Tarsus who changed Jesus one god teachings into Greek mythology. Allah,Yahweh,Jehova were never the Christian god as Christians break all of god's laws in the Bible old Testament.
Foo yoh,
It takes a non Christian to tell the truth that God Yahweh is NOT Trinity.
You are right. The church have been lying. You read britannica encyclopedia who explain its pagan origins and read scripture, no where u see the word Trinity.
Even Syaitan knows that Yesus is God's Son. Matthew 4:1-10.
Mustapha
Mustapha said :
Even Syaitan knows that Yesus is God's Son. Matthew 4:1-10.
Pak Yeh's reply :
Hmm. Thats weird.! Satan's word can be the word of god.???
You in touch and worship Syaitan.???
Matthew 4:1-10 is not God's words. It is the author of the Gospels words.!!! And that author lived 200 years after Jesus died. He is not an eye witness. so the Gospel he wrote is hearsay in nature ,and cannot be accepted as truth in any court of law.
Anyway, 1)where in the Bible does god say that there are 3 gods and 2) that he says he has a begotten son. Many prophet are called son of god but never called a begotten son of god, except Hercules of the Greek gods.
So you believe in Hercules too.???
Jesus'Abrahamic one god religion got spun into a Greek religion by Paul of Tarsus and other Greeks. That is why all translation are based on the Greek Gospels. That is also the reason you guys are called Christians,a Greek word. Right,right,right.???
distortion of God's message is a common problem among Abrahamic religions. just as christians have trinity concept, so does the muslims with hadiths. both ideas deviate believers from the original scriptures.
sadly, lots of people failed to use their thought when it comes to religion. probably due to brainwashing by clerics; you cannot use logic and reason in religion, believers must accept whatever 'authorized' religious leaders say and whatnot.
why humans are bestowed with a thinking brain when we are not allowed to use it? there are numerous verses in Quran which tell us to think. failure to do so resulting all kinds of nonsense we see today.
Quran claim Muslim and Christian's God is the same God, Why Malaysia muslim against teaching from Quran on this topic ? Please do not used by politics, Surah 29:46
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Anonymous Sun Sep 01, 11:44:00 PM GMT+8
Very good question.
Christians are not the people of the Scriptures.
Note 1)The original Quran's word for the Christian "people of the Book" is "Nasarani".Names/Proper Nous such as Allah,Yahweh and Nasarani cannot be translated. Nasaranis are the One God/Unitarian Christians followers of Jesus from Nazareth. The Trinity Christianity was preached by Greek Paul of Tarsus and it included Greek mythology Hercules/Jesus the son of God. As such Christianity is a fiction of Paul's imagination. That is why there is only Greek originals and no Aramaic(Jesus' language) originals.
2) To call Christians the People of the Scripture is not true because the Gospels are the word of man and not the word of god (the Greek authors, who never met Jesus). Altahoyg the Old Testament Bible is God's scripture, Christians contradict its "One God" teachings by creating many gods ie The Father(God), The Mother(Mary),the son (Jesus, the Priests whose book contradicts Bible Old Testament.
What I say is what the Quran says about Christianity.
Why the need to change your god's name.??? Lucifer/Satan asked you to do so.??? Those who pray to a trinity god pray to Lucifer/Satan, who is the Chief Deceiver of god's oneness.
People of the book, Wikipedia :People of the Book (Arabic: أهل الكتاب ′Ahl al-Kitāb), People of the Book is a term used to designate non-Muslim adherents to faiths which have a revealed scripture[1] called, in Arabic, Ahl-Al-Kitab (Arabic: أهل الكتاب "the people of the Book" or "people of the Scripture"). The three types of adherents to faiths that the Qur'an mentions as people of the book are the Jews, Sabians, Magians and Christians.
Wiki islam : In the Qur'an and Hadith, the term People of the Book (أهل الكتاب ′Ahl al-Kitāb) is used to refer to followers of certain monotheistic faiths which pre-date the advent of Islam. In particular, it refers to the Christian, Jewish, and Sabian faiths.
So I do not find any Original Quran's word people of the book is referring to Nasarani ?! For the above quotation the interpretation clearly is also referring to Christian.
Based on Surah 29:46 clearly claim Muslim's God is the same God for Christian. why Malaysia Islam react does not according to Quran teaching ? Instead of trying to misinterpret your own holy words ?
Why are you trying to say "lucifer/satan asked Christian to do so", as the mentioned surah clearly is Quran declare Muslim and Christian God is one. Why do you do not respect your own holy words and putting such a very unacceptable words ?! Pak Yeh you have been written many excellence articles to expose lairs from those in power why this time you are doing reverse way when Religion being manipulated by them and go till the level to twist your own holy words?!
Dear Anonymous Mon Sep 02, 09:51:00 PM GMT+8
1)You must read the Arabic version of the Quran in order to come across the word "Nasarani" which was the word used for the original Unitarian Christians.
2)The word Christians had never been used in the Quran as well as the Bible.
3) The People of the Scriptures are refered tho all "One God" religions and it can include the Yogi Hindu religion too. Trinity Christians are disqualified as "the People of the Scriptures" because of their 3 gods and their Greek mythology of son of god. Similarly the mythology Hindu religion is also excluded from the term "the People of the scriptures. Although the Bible old testament is a "revealed'/wahyu scripture, trinity Christians do not fallow the Old Testament teachings, especially on the unity of god/Unitarian. The Gospel is not a "revealed" / wahyu scripture because it is written like a history book authored by Greek non eye witnesses of Jesus, in Greek.
Anonymous said :
Why are you trying to say "lucifer/satan asked Christian to do so", as the mentioned surah clearly is Quran declare Muslim and Christian God is one.
Pak Yewh's reply:
Only Lucifer/Satan would contradict what god has desribed Himself as per Bible,Isaiah 43:10,11,12 "I am the only god. There is no god before me and there is no god after me. And there is no Savior except Me."
It is Lucifer/Satan who contradict god by saying 1)there is more than 1 god and that god is a trinity.
2)that there is another Savior named Jesus, besides God.
Common Mr Anonymous, there are many cheat priests in religion. I am only revealing to you these cheats. It is proven though history that the priests cheat and some are sodomites, especially in the Roman Catholic Church. As Pomans they still kill Jesus every time they preach their religion.
People of the book or people of the Scriptures not referring to Christian ? Till now you are not able to get any proof from your own holy words but still never ending to twist them as you like. Please read translation from Mushin Khan
Surah 29:46
And argue not with the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to Islamic Monotheism with His Verses), except with such of them as do wrong, and say (to them): "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (i.e. Allah), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)."
Your Quran scholar put the note clear stated is Christian. May be you can still argue again. Lets Quran speak to you, you favorable surah.
surah 4:171
O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer .
So people of book or people of scriptures in Quran is not referring Christian ?!
Anonymous Tue Sep 03, 09:38:00 PM GMT+8
Shesh. You are so dumb.
Didn't I tell you there is no "Christian" word in the original Arabic Quran. The word used is "Nasarani". And I told you again that names of god and "Nasarani" a name used in the Quran cannot be translated to "Christians".So do not quote from a mistranslated Quran.!!!
As for "the people of the scripture" you Christians do not fit in because you have made 3 other gods besides Yarweh or Allah. As such the god Yahweh and Allah is not the 4 gods of the Christians.
Why dont you try to debate your God's words in the Bible,Isaiah 43:10,11,12 which is contradicted by the Gospels. How can man's/historian's/author's words in the Gospel, contradict and over rule God's words.??? Either God is telling a lie or the authors of the Gospel is telling a lie.
And because you Christians believed in man's words,called the Gospel, you definitely are not worshiping your god Yahweh, but is waorshipin the authors of the Gospel.And that disqualifies Christian as the people of the scripture.
Common.Prove that your god is one and not made up of Jesus,the Holy Ghost(Pontianak),Mary mother of Jesus and God using your own OT Bible that is the word of God and do not use the word of man(Gospels)
Even using the Gospels,you cannot prove that Jesus is God. All you have is the words of Thomas and the authors of the Gospel.
So that makes you Christians liars for making Jesus,Mary Jesus' mother,the Holy Pontianak / Ghost , and authors of the Gospels as gods.
You Christians are definitely the followers of Lucifer/Satan for telling lies about your own god Yahweh. And now you want to lie about Allah too. Real mischievous and satanic of you to do so.
Till now you have not proof that "Nasarani" present in the original Arabic Quran! even after I have shown you many proof from Islam sources ( and original Arabic words) that people of the scriptures or book referring to Christian (did I ever mentioned "Christian" word present in Arabic Quran?).
Surah 29:46 and Surah 4:171 has shown that even the understanding of God of two faiths is different but God remain the same God, hence calling God in Allah has strongly supported in Quran. Why till now still has some of Malaysia Muslim(only same and only happened in Malaysia) against this teaching from Quran ! From Quran there are much positive view that I think will make a better Malaysian compare Pak Yeh's view on Allah issue.
Anonymous Wed Sep 04, 10:22:00 PM GMT+8
Why do you need to change the name of your god, which was not Allah, to Allah, knowing full well that Allah and even your Bible god Yahweh himself is not a trinity and does not have a son.???
You bloody Christians lie about your own god, and now you want to lie about the Muslim god, Allah.!!!.!!!
The verses of the Quran you quotwd is for People of the Scriptures who worship "One God only".
Christians who worship 4 gods including Mary are not the people of the scriptures referred to in the Qur'an verses.
If you truly believe in the Quran to justify your use of Allah, why don't you believe in these verses. 1) Quran 5:72,73 "They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribes partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers. (72) They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve. (73)"
So Q1) Why believe in a part of the Quran(2 verses only).???
Why not believe in the whole Quran and especially Quran 5:72,73.???
2) Why not throw away your original Bible which never used Allah and use the Quran which originally used Allah if Allah is truely your god.???
You Christians are just mischief makers and followers of Satan/Lucifer, for telling lies against your one god Yahweh and our Muslim one god Allah.!!!
Podah lying and blasphemous Christians, ollowers of Satan/Lucifer, the Chief Deceiver and Chief Liar about the Oneness of God, of the People of the Scriptures. Hell will be the palce for you forever and ever.
I am using your holy words to proof that you are wrong, your additional surah 5:72,73 just again support my claim that even the understanding of God is different but God remain the same God for two faiths under Quran's view.
Interestingly, when you used surah 5:72,73 which use Bible term on Messiah, again the understanding of messiah in Quran is different from Bible but never a Christian has claim that Muslim can not use Messiah for Quran English translation.
Till now again you are not able to answer to the point but repeatedly cursing me, is this the image of a Muslim that you want to shown me ?!
May be I find a wrong people to discuss this topic. Please take good care. May our God bless you.
Dear Anonymous Thu Sep 05, 11:41:00 PM GMT+8
I do not owe you anything anymore.Everything is explained to you. the word Christian is not mentioned in the original Quran.The word Allah too is not mentioned in the original Bible. So dont get trapped into mistranslation of the Quran and the Bible by ignorant translators.
Messiah is used in the Aeab Quran without changing its name to Cristos and Christians as you Christians have done corrupting names.So what is the complain about.
You want to debate you say. But you cannot debate at all. You have not refuted my accusation that you Christian tell a lie about your god Yahweh's oneness as per Isaiah 43:10,11,12, and you now you have the gall to lie about Allah to by saying Allah is a trinity and has a bustard son.
This is a debate and you have lost the debate.I have not cursed you. It is Allah that have cursed you Christians (refer Quran 5:72).
T hope you will find the true Allah and the true xcriptue of god.
The Gospels are but the word of man (its authors) It is these men that have contradicted the true god's words especially Isaiah 43:10,11,12.
Anyway if you are a good debater, you could have given me Gospel proofs of the devinity of Jesus which I could refute by saying,that the Gospel is the word of men (authors of the Gospels) who contradict the Bible Old Testament god as per Isaiah 43:10,11,12.
But unfortunately you dont have a clue on how to debate.
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