I am debating Anwar Ibrahims article titled "Word Allah is not exclusive to Muslims"
Please refer to the full article at..
I hope Anwar Ibrahim would respond to this debate.
1) Anwar Ibrahim said :
"Word Allah is not exclusive to Muslims"
1) Pak Yehs reply
1.1) Allah is exclusive to Muslim with 1% exception created by Christian mistranslations of the Arab and Malay Bible.
This was designed by the Colonial Powers pf France,Britain and Dutch, in order to divide and rule the Muslims and to undermine the teachings of Islam when Allah is used or more appropriately misused as a Trinity and has a son (Jesus) and a wife and mother (Mary).
2) Anwar said:
But there are a few elements that are not in dispute,
chief among them that the God of the Quran is the same as the God of the
Bible and of the Torah before it.
2) Pak Yehs reply:
2.1) Correctly said The god of the Bible Old Testament and the Torah is one and the same but with different names. So same but different.
2.2) However he God of the Christians have changed from originally One God to Three Gods.Note Bible Old Testament preaches One God but Bible New Testamentor Gospels preaches three gods. One God and three gods are totally different. Note the Gospel is not a revealed word of god scripture as it is the word and opinion of authors.
3) Anwar said:
The mission of Islam, as expressed in
the Quran, is not to bring a new faith, but to update the messages of
the monotheistic faiths before it.
It is therefore surprising to see, as The National reports today, that a Malaysian court has ruled that a Christian newspaper may not use the word “Allah” to
refer to God. The court overturned a previous decision by a lower
court, ruling that “Allah” as a term is not exclusive to Islam. This
causes a problem for the country’s substantial Christian minority, who
have used the word “Allah” to refer to God for decades.
3) Pak Yehs reply:
You have not debated the judges' decision. Giving a biased opinion without debate is ignorance.
4) Anwar Ibrahim said:
In a fellow Muslim country with substantial Christian and Hindu populations, this feels like the wrong decision. The UAE....
4) Pak Yehs reply :
Just because the Arabs and Indonesians allow it does not mean it is right for Christians to mistranslate their gods name to Allah. Mistranslation is immoral an a stupid action. Arabs have been colonized by kafir nations and have lost their credibility in Islam,especially with the Quran onlty Muslims. Arabs have Arabized Islam when they created the Hadis which caused the breakup of Islam into many mazhabs, a\A "divide and rule strategy" that put Islamic nations into the hands of kafir nations.
5) Anwar said:
The word “Allah” is never
exclusive to Islam – indeed, both Christians and Jews used the word
“Allah” to refer to God even before the coming of Islam.
5) Pak Yeh's reply:
Where is the proof.??? There is no Allah in the Torah.!!! There is no Allah in the original Bible.!!!
Mistranslations of the Bible are not proof.s!!!
6) Anwar said:
That remains the case today. When Christians across the Middle East
pray to God, they use the term “Allah”. Walk into a church in Cairo,
Baghdad or Beirut this coming Sunday and you will hear the name of
“Allah” invoked. That also applies to the Jews of the Arab world, who
for centuries have prayed to “Allah”.
6) Pak Yehs reply:
If it is done due to a mistranslation of ther scriptures, the it still is wrong do do so.
7) Anwar said:
The Quran itself is explicit on
this subject, declaring, in Surah Al Ankabut, that Muslims should tell
People of the Book (Christians and Jews) that “our God and your God is
7) Pak Yeh's reply:
You are dead wrong here.
The "people of the book" is a reference to revealed/word of god books that subscribe to One God. It exclude Christians who use man's word/Gospels that contradict the One God with Three Gods.
Besides Allah mentions "Nasarani" as "the people of the book". The Christians are totally different religion from the Nasarani mentioned in the Quran. Christianity is Greek mythology. The O;d Testament Laws and theology are not followed.
8) Anwar said:
The Malaysian decision
overlooks not merely the theology, but also the etymology of the word.
8) Pak Yehs reply:
Ha,ha,ha. We have just debated the theology part and you just ailed it. As for etymology, the issue is a mistranslation of the Bible by the Christians in Muslim countries. 99% of all Christians refuse to use Allah.
9) Anwar said :
The word “Allah” is derived from the Arabic “al-ilah”, the god. It’s
found its way across the world and entered Malay from Arabic.
9) Pak Yehs reply:
Are you saying Allah is a Malay word for God.??? The Malay word for god is Tuhan. Christians say Tuhan is Lord. They are wrong. Lord is Tuan. Isnt it all an issue of mistranslation of the Bible.??? You agree with mistranslations.???
10) Anwar said:
Arabic as a language is a vehicle for faith, be that Christianity,
Judaism or Islam. The God of the three monotheistic religions is the
same god. It is unsurprising, therefore, that all three faiths in the
Arabic-speaking world (and beyond) refer to God as “Allah”. And if they
have the same God, they should have the right to call their deity by the
10) Pak Yeh's reply:
The truth remains as...
i) 99% of Christians do not use Allah. For 1% of Christians in Muslim countries to use Allah is a divide and rule poilcy of the Colonial Powers. You agree with divide and rule of the Muslims. Anwar.???
ii) Christians substituting god for Allah is a mistranslation
Allah is a name/proper noun and god is a noun. Substituting Yaweh the Bible god with Allah requires the permission of Yaweh and Allah. Besides it is immoral to mistranslate and change Gods name.
You agree with changing your god's name Anwar.???
iii) These 1% Christians using the word Allah has managed to blaspheme/dreogate/hina Allah by saying..
a) Allah is a Trinity
b) Allah is Jesus
Allah is a Ghost (same species as Pontianak).
c) Allah has a son out of wedloch/bastard son.
d) Allah has a wife
e) Allah has a Mother.
f) Allah Jesus was killed by Romans.
So Anwar ,you agree with the Christian who derogate/blaspheme Allah.???
Or have you become a Christian.???
Debate Anwar, jangan tak debate.!!!