God's Law is made up of God's words(Quran). Mans Law is made up of man;s words (Hadis). Mix them up and you get Gomen's (government's) Law....Madah Pak Yeh.
This is a continuation of the debate @http://warongpakyeh.
1) Did the ban and burning of the hadis really happened.???
Proof that it happened is ample in books wriiteh by historians and hadis co,pilers.
The following blog gives ample evidence that the hadis was banned an refuts pro Hadis Ulamas.
http://besthadithquranalone.blogspot.com/2011/07/masha-allah-arabic-word-hadith-and.html
http://besthadithquranalone.blogspot.com/2011_07_01_archive.html
We have from their very OWN HADITH that their prominent figures banned Hadith such as:
1) the Prophet Muhammadbanned the hadis.
a)Zaid Ibni Thabit and several other Sahabahs said that the prophet prohibited the writing of the hadis.
b)Quran31:6 "Some people use lahwal hadis to mislead others from Allah's path (Islam),without knowledge, and make a mockery of it (Allah's path)".This verve prohibits the use of lahwal hadis or misleading hadis, its meaning extracted from the verse itself .
2) Zayd Ibn Thabit (The Prophet's closest revelation writer) banned the hadis.
Zayd said:The Apostle of Allah ordered us not to write any of his traditions. So he erased it. [Sunan of Abu-Dawood Book 25, Number 3640:] Several other narators of hadis also said that the prophet prohibited Muslims from writing the hadis.
3) Abu Bakar the 1st Kalifah burnt the hadis.
We also have later historical sources from their OWN ahadith which say
that the Caliph Abu Bakr burnt his notes of hadith (said to be 500 in
all) for fear that they might be false,
4) Umar ibn al-Khattab the2nd Kalifah banned the hadis.
The earlier story related by Abd al-Razzaq is somewhat longer than the later story, containing a broad variety of orders. It is a list of commands and prohibitions that includes the command to
The earlier story related by Abd al-Razzaq is somewhat longer than the later story, containing a broad variety of orders. It is a list of commands and prohibitions that includes the command to
“bare the Qur’an and spare the narration from God’s Messenger.”
5) Ali Ibn Abu Talib the 4th Kalaifah banned the hadis.
In one of his speeches he said,
"I
urge all those who have writing taken from the messenger of God to go
home and erase it. The people before you were annihilated because they
followed theHadiths of their scholars and left the book of their Lord."
(Sunan Al-Daramy)
# Pak Yeh's comment :
Historical evidence shows that the hadis was banned. Period.!!!
Muslims had observed the ban for 300 years.!!!
After 300 years, Bukhari ,Muslim and others without the prophets's and the Kalifahs' permission, unbanned the hadis, thus causing lahwal hadis (Buhkari Muslim's hadis) to be mixed with ahsanal hadis (Quran) in the hukum/Law of Allah.
But Allah had warned us against mixing other hadis with the Quran as per the 3 verses below..!!!
"Take not other than Me, as disposer of affairs". (Quran 17:2)
"Surely the ‘HUKM’ (Law and Rule) is for none but Allah." (Quran 12:40)
"He does not make any one His associate in His ‘HUKM’ (Laws and Ruling)." (Quran 18:26)
(Pak Yeh's comment: Allah does not make the prophet Mohammad or the narators of the hadis as associate in His HUKM/Law. What Hadis Muslims are doing is contradicting Allah by associating the prophet's alledged hadis in Allah's HUKM/Law and making a rojak of Allahs HUKM/Law).
Question : Why was the hadis banned.?
Answer : 1)_ Because it misleads people and make a mockery of Islam. Refer Quran 31:6 "Some people use lahwal hadis to mislead others from Allahs path,without knowledge,and make a mockery of it (Isla m)"
Proof of hadis misleading and making a mockery of Islam is as follows..
a) The hadis of Omar saying that the prophet kissed the hajar aswat/black stone. Historians say this is a pagan tradition of kissing the vagina of the Godess of Procreation. This hadis mocks Islam and Muslim by associating them with pagan idolatry.
b) The Israk Mikraj hadis paints Allah as a flip flop planner of solat who over planned 50 solats aday and had to reduce it to 5 solats a day after the prophet Mohamad flew on a flying horse to meet God at the 7th heaven where Zeus the father of Hercules of Greek mythology lives. This hadis besides saying Allah is stupid is also saying islam is a Greek mythology.
c) The hadis from monkeys who stoned to death their married adulterers were also used to be included in Allahs hudud Law. punishment. The Hudud Law was mixed up with not just man's law (hadis) but also monckey's law. Bukhari Muslim must have learned monkey language from Tarzan and the Apes.
Refer Sahîh al-Bukhârî Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:
Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: "During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them."
Refer Sahîh al-Bukhârî Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:
Narrated ‘Amru bin Maimun: "During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them."
Answer : 2) The Hadis when used has the tendency to eclipse the Quran.
Proof of it is as per
a) Qur’aan 25:30 "The Messenger said, “My Lord, my people have deserted this Qur’aan."
b) Quran 16:63-64 “By
God, we have sent (messengers) to communities before you, but the devil
adorned their works in their eyes. Consequently, he is now their lord,
and they have incurred a painful retribution. We have revealed this
scripture to you, to point out for them what they dispute… (16:63-64)”.
(Pak Yeh' comment :
1)The 2nd Hadis (Rabbi's words) of the Jews turned Judaism into a facist/racist religion.
2) The 2nd Hadis/Gospels (priest's words) of the Chrostians turned one God into a trinity of gods.
3) The 2nd Hadis (Ullanas words) of the Muslims would do the same as Jews and Christians ie mislead them as stated in the verse Quran 16:63-64. and Quran 31:6"Some people use lahwal hadis to mislead others from Allah's path,without knowledge and make a mockery of it(Allahs path/Islam".)
3) The 2nd Hadis (Ullanas words) of the Muslims would do the same as Jews and Christians ie mislead them as stated in the verse Quran 16:63-64. and Quran 31:6"Some people use lahwal hadis to mislead others from Allah's path,without knowledge and make a mockery of it(Allahs path/Islam".)
I welcome anybody that disagree with these facts to counter deabte it out as advised by the Quran 39:18 "Listen to all views.Choose the best. These are the guided and the intelligent."
A dogmatic belief that dead Ulamas (Bukhari Muslim etc) do not make mistakes, is idol worshiping them,as gods besides Allah. Do not associate Ulamas words with Allah's words othrwise you would be like the Christians and Jews. Refer Quran9:31
"They
have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks(and Ulamas) and the
Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God.
There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as
partner (unto Him)!"
May Allah guide us to the truth.!